The Delahorne/Curtis Family History

Vye · ◉ direct ancestor

♂Harry Vye

Died 1558, Colyton, Devon, England.

Also recorded as Harrye Vye.

Harry Vye (living 1539) was a man of the parish of Colyton in Devon, England, whose daughter Agnes married there in 1539, barely a year after the parish began to keep its register.

Family

He may have been the Henry Vye assessed on his goods in Colyton Hundred for the subsidy of 1524, which would make him a grown man by then. Colyton’s register begins in 1538, the year Thomas CromwellW ordered every parish in England to record its baptisms, marriages and burials. On 5 October 1539 his daughter Agnes, of the hamlet of Cadhayne in the parish, married John Mychell of Rawkerhayne at Colyton. The entry names the fathers of both bride and groom, and it gives Harry as “Harrye Vye”.

His children were Agnes, Robert, John, Ellen, Johane, Edythe, Harry, Edmond, Alice and Elizabeth. The register buries his wife Johane in 1547. Two daughters married at Colyton: Ellen to John Tygon in 1548/49, and Johane to Robert Whiker in 1550, both with Harrye as the bride’s father.

Death and will

A Harry Vye of Colyton made his will on 2 October 1558, asking to be buried in Colyton church, and it was proved in London before the month was out. Every child he named was still under age, and none was called Agnes. The married daughters, Agnes among them, are left out of the will.

Lines of descent

He was probably the twelfth great-grandfather of Frederic Roger Curtis (1928–2007), through his daughter Agnes Vye (married 1539).

Notes

Sources

The marriage of 5 October 1539 comes from the FreeREG transcript of the Colyton St Andrew register, which gives “John MYCHELL of Rawkerhayne” and “Agnes VYE of Caddhayne”, the groom’s father as John Mychell and the bride’s father as “Harrye VYE”. FamilySearch’s collection of the Devon registers has the same marriage. The 1558 will is preserved in the registers of the Prerogative Court of CanterburyW; it opens “I Harrye Vye of the parishe of Colyton”. Harry and Henry are forms of the same name, and Burton W. Spear’s Search for the Passengers of the Mary & John 1630 (vol. 23) calls Agnes a daughter of “Henry Vye”, naming no record.

Identity of the testator

The will is by “Harrye Vye of the parishe of Colyton”, dated 2 October 1558 and proved in London on 29 October 1558 (Prerogative Court of Canterbury). The Colyton register buries “Harrye Vye, Caden” on 11 October 1558, nine days after the will’s date. Caden is the hamlet the 1539 entry calls Caddhayne, under another spelling.

The same register gives this household at Cadden: a son Robert christened on 3 November 1541, with Harry as father; a son John buried on 24 September 1544, and another John christened on 18 January 1545/46; Johane, wife of Harrye, buried on 8 May 1547; Ellen’s marriage to John Tygon on 16 February 1548/49; Johane’s marriage to Robert Whiker (written Whicker in the register) of Sydmothe on 23 November 1550; and Edythe, a daughter, buried on 16 November 1552. The christenings of 1541 and 1546 name the father as Harry of Cadden, so the children of those years belong to this household, not to a second Harry of the name. Whether Johane, buried in 1547, was Agnes’s mother is not shown.

The 1524 subsidy

The Colyton Hundred subsidy of 1524, in the GENUKI transcription, lists “Henry Vye G 10” as assessed on goods, beside “John Vye G 10”. The list has no parish headings and states no kinship. Whether this Henry is the Harry of this page rests on the name and the hundred alone, and the records do not settle it.

The will of 1558

The testator left bequests to his sons Harry (who also had “my best gowne”), Robert, Edmond and John, each at the age of 21, and to his daughters Alice and Elizabeth at their marriages. He left the rest of his goods to Peter Lant, Harry Chamon, John Michell and Robert Whiker, and made them his executors. Agnes, Ellen and Johane had married by then, and none is named; Edythe, buried in 1552, had died before the will was made. The John Michell among the executors shows a tie between the two families but gives no kinship. Wills of Colyton people were normally proved in the Dean and Chapter of Exeter’s own court, whose records were largely destroyed in 1942; this will was proved in London, and its copy survives there.

The line of descent

John Insley Coddington, in his account of the Michell family in The American Genealogist (1939), wrote that the mother of John Michell (buried 1620) “may, or may not, have been” Agnes Vye, a daughter of Harry Vye of Cadhayne, and called the whole Michell pedigree tentative. The 1539 entry now names Harry as Agnes’s father. The doubt lies one step lower: Agnes’s husband was the man called “John Mychell the younger” in later entries, and his son John married at Colyton in 1569 as the son of “John the younger”, but no entry names that son’s mother. A widow Agnes Mychell of Rawkerhayne was buried at Colyton on 12 March 1564/65.

The name

The register writes the hamlet “Caddhayne” in 1539; later entries spell it several ways, among them Cadhayne, the form Coddington uses.

Family time line

◉ Harry Vye –1558
◉ Agnes (surname unknown) 1498–1566
No marriage recorded
○ Robert Vye 1541–
○ John Vye 1544–1544 ✧
○ John Vye 1546–
◉ Agnes Vye
○ Ellen Vye
○ Edythe Vye –1552
○ Harry Vye
○ Alice Vye

Recorded events

EventWhenWhereEvidence ?on record - the record itself, its image, or a transcript or printed copy of it has been read
from a compiled source - an index, a printed genealogy or a memorial page says so
not yet documented - in the family record, no source attached yet
Living at
Colyton Hundred subsidy, 'Henry Vye G 10' (assessed on goods); parish not stated
1524 Colyton, Devon, England on record
Living at
of Cadhayne ('Caddhayne'), at his daughter Agnes's marriage
5 Oct 1539 Colyton, Devon, England on record
Burial
of Cadhayne ('Caden')
11 Oct 1558 Colyton, Devon, England on record
Estate settled
will dated 2 Oct 1558, PCC (PROB 11/41)
29 Oct 1558 on record
15241558 153015401550

Sources

  • Colyton Hundred Subsidy Tax 1524, transcribed by Christopher Wicker (GENUKI Devon, Colyton1524, page by Brian Randell 2010) — Living at, about this person
  • FreeREG transcription (freereg.org.uk), Devon, Colyton St Andrew, Other Transcript 1538-1837 (transcriber Jennie Moore) — Living at, Burial, about this person, family with Agnes (surname unknown)
  • Prerogative Court of Canterbury, will of Harrye Vye of the parishe of Colyton, Devon, dated 2 Oct 1558, proved London 29 Oct 1558 — Estate settled, about this person, family with Agnes (surname unknown)
  • WikiTree (wikitree.com) member tree - finding aid only, NO EVIDENCE YET (owner rule s1211) — about this person

Borders as they stood about 1530, from the historical-basemaps project, the Newberry Library's Atlas of Historical County Boundaries (states and territories, 1783 on) and Natural Earth; the colonies and provinces are drawn along today's lines.


Line of descent

  1. Unknown Vye
  2. not yet known

Descendants

  1. Robert Vye 1541–
  2. John Vye 1544–1544 ✧
  3. John Vye 1546–
  4. Agnes Vye
    1. Annes Mychell 1547–
    2. Thomas Mychell 1550–
    3. Johan Mychell 1554–
    4. John Michell –1620
      1. Joan Michell 1571–
      2. John Michell 1573–
      3. Mary Michell 1576–1648
        1. Joan Dolbiar 1603–1606 ✧
        2. Anne Dolbiar 1605–
        3. Mary Dolbiar 1607–1686
        4. Robert Dolbiar 1611–
        5. Dorothy Dolbiar 1613–1614 ✧
        6. Cornelius Dolbiar 1616–1621 ✧
        7. John Dolbiar 1619–
      4. Elizabeth Michell 1579–1603
      5. Philip Michell 1581–
      6. Beatrix Michell 1583–
      7. Robert Michell 1585–
      8. Christian Michell 1588–
      9. Dorothy Michell 1592–
  5. Ellen Vye
  6. Johane Vye
  7. Edythe Vye –1552
  8. Harry Vye
  9. Edmond Vye
  10. Alice Vye
  11. Elizabeth Vye