Elmes · ◉ direct ancestor
♂John Elmes
Dates not yet known.
John Elmes (died before August 1653) was a man of Rotherfield Greys, near Henley-on-Thames in Oxfordshire, where four of his children were baptized between January 1617/18 and March 1624/5. He was the ninth great-grandfather of Nancy Jane Blanchard (1929–2006), through his son Rodulphus Elmes (1620–1712), who sailed for New England in 1635 at the age of fifteen.
Early life
He was probably the John Elmes baptized at Henley-on-Thames on 3 May 1585, the son of John Elmes the elder and his first wife, Alice Coys. His mother was buried at Henley ten days later, on 13 May 1585, and before the year was out his father had married again, to Margery Woodroffe, who was his stepmother until her death in 1601. His father, who described himself in his will as “John Elmes the elder of the parishe of Rotherfield Graye”, made that will on 9 February 1607/8 and was buried at Henley a month later. It named John, his eldest son, as executor, so at about twenty-two he took charge of his father’s affairs.
Marriage and family
When and where John Elmes and Sarah Chelsham married is not known. Their children were born near Henley-on-Thames, in Oxfordshire: a son Anthony seems to have been baptized at Henley in August 1611, and four more children - Margaretta, Rodulphus, Jonathan and Henricus - were baptized at Rotherfield Greys between January 1617/18 and March 1624/5, Rodulphus on 27 August 1620. The family is said to have lost two small children, a son John in 1609 and a daughter Sara in 1616.
In April 1635 Rodulphus, then fifteen, was licensed at London to sail for New England in the Planter. By 1648 the family appears to have settled at Kingston upon Thames, Sarah’s birthplace, where John was described as a yeoman.
Death
He died before 25 August 1653, when Sarah made her will as a widow of the parish of St Saviour in Southwark.
Notes
His parentage
His baptism and the names of his mother and stepmother come from Robert Battle and Henry B. Hoff’s study of the family in the New England Historical and Genealogical Register (2022), which traces him as the son of John Elmes the elder (baptized at Harpsden in 1561), who married Alice Coys at Harpsden on 5 October 1579 and Margery Woodroffe there on 6 December 1585. The elder John’s will, proved in the Prerogative Court of CanterburyW on 15 March 1607/8, names his eldest son John as executor. That this son is the John Elmes of Rotherfield Greys whose children were baptized there from 1617/18 is probable rather than proved.
His wife and children
The Rotherfield Greys register names only the father of Margaretta, Rodolphus, Jonathan and Henricus; no record of his marriage is known. Sarah is taken to be his wife because her 1653 will names sons Radolphus “now in parts beyond the Seas”, Jonathan, Henry and Anthony and a daughter Margaret, and because the 2022 article ties her to him. The baptism of “Anthonie”, son of John, at Henley on 25 August 1611 is known from an index; the two children who died young, and an earlier John baptized at Henley in March 1609/10, are from the 2022 article, which also cites a 1647 will of this couple’s son John.
Kingston in 1648
The record behind the move to Kingston is a Haberdashers’ Company entry of 8 December 1648, printed in the 2022 article, for “Jonathan Elmes fil[ius] Johnis Elmes de Kingston super Thames yeoman”. It does not say whether John was then still alive.
Family time line
Recorded events
No dated events are recorded yet.
Sources
- Rotherfield Greys, Oxfordshire, parish register 1591-1720 (Oxfordshire FHS / Oxfordshire History Centre, ref BOD224_C_1) — about this person, family with Sarah Chelsham
- Will of John Elmes the Elder, Gentleman, of Rotherfield Greys, Oxfordshire, 1607/8 (PCC, TNA PROB 11/111/169) — about this person
- Will of Sarah Elmes, Widow of Saint Saviour in Southwark, Surrey, 1653 (PCC, TNA PROB 11/234/74) — family with Sarah Chelsham
Line of descent
- John Elmes 1561–1607
- Anthony Elmes –bef 1574
- Humphrey Elmes –1526
- Elizabeth (surname unknown) –1526
- not yet known
- Agnes (surname unknown)
- Margaret Forster
- Humphrey Forster
- George Forster
- Humphrey Forster
- Humphrey Forster
- Alice Stonor
- Thomas Stonor
- not yet known
- Popham
- Stephen Popham
- not yet known
- Humphrey Forster
- Elizabeth Delamere
- John Delamere
- Thomas Delamere
- not yet known
- not yet known
- John Delamere
- George Forster
- Elizabeth Sandys
- William Sandys –1542
- William Sandys –1497
- Elizabeth Cheney
- John Cheney
- not yet known
- Margery Bray
- John Bray
- not yet known
- William Sandys –1542
- Humphrey Forster
- Anthony Elmes –bef 1574
- Alice Coys
- Roger Coys –1579
- not yet known
Descendants
- Margaretta Elmes 1617–
- Rodulphus Elmes abt 1620–1712
- Sarah Elmes 1645–
- Mary Elmes 1648–
- Joanna Elmes 1651–
- Hannah Elmes 1653–
- John Elmes 1655–
- Joseph Elmes 1658–
- Waitestill Elmes 1660–
- Jonathan Elmes 1663–
- Rodolphus Elmes 1668–1749
- Mary Elmes 1696–
- Katharine Elmes 1698–
- Timothy Carver 1720–
- Mary Carver 1722–
- Eleazer Carver 1724–1755
- Katharine Carver 1726–
- Mercy Carver 1730–
- Bethiah Carver 1732–1753
- Rodulphus Carver 1735–
- John Carver Sr 1738–1803
- Rodolphus Elmes 1700–
- Bethiah Elmes 1712–
- Ignatius Elmes
- Elkanah Elmes 1729–1809
- Jonathan Elmes 1622–
- Henricus Elmes 1624–
- Anthony Elmes