Fish · ◉ direct ancestor
♂Thomas Fish
Born 1703, Portsmouth, Newport, Rhode Island, British Colonial America. Died about 1786, Oblong, Dutchess, New York, United States.
Thomas Fish (1 December 1703 – about 1786) was a Rhode Island-born farmer who raised his family at Dartmouth, Massachusetts, and then moved them to the Oblong in Dutchess County, New York, where he lived for some forty years and was once bound over to keep the peace. He was the fifth great-grandfather of Frederic Roger Curtis (1928–2007), through his daughter Elizabeth Fish (1736–1814).
Early life and marriage
He was born at Portsmouth, Rhode Island, on 1 December 1703, the eldest son of Preserved Fish (born 1679) and Ruth Cook, whom a compiled typescript pedigree calls Quakers; his grandparents were Thomas Fish and Grizzel Strange of Portsmouth, whose marriage in December 1668 is quoted from the Portsmouth town record in a history of the Fish family published in 1948. A typescript pedigree dates that marriage to 1683, four years after Preserved’s birth in 1679, but that date is an error. On 16 December 1724, at Portsmouth, he married Mercy Coggeshall (1704–1778), of one of the island’s founding families.
Dartmouth
The couple settled across the bay at Dartmouth, Massachusetts, where the town register records seven of their children as born to “Thomas and Mercy” between 1725 and 1740, among them Elizabeth on 4 June 1736. A family history published in 1948 adds a daughter Sarah, born in 1738, and a son Joshua, born in 1743 “at Oblong”, which puts the family’s move to New York in the early 1740s.
The Oblong
The Oblong was a strip of land along the Connecticut border, later part of the town of Amenia, and it drew many families from Dartmouth and the Rhode Island shore. A Thomas Fish witnessed a deed there in December 1744, when William Russell of the Oblong sold land to James Tripp of Dartmouth; the other witness was Philip Allen.
On 13 April 1756 “Thomas Fish of the Oblong in Dutchess County” was bound over before a justice of the peace, with two neighbors as sureties for twenty pounds, to appear at the next court of general sessions at Poughkeepsie. He was to answer a complaint by John Birdsell “concerning sundry Misdemeanors & Breaches of the Peace” and in the meantime to keep the peace. The outcome is not known. Being bound over was not a conviction: his neighbors pledged money that would be forfeit if he misbehaved before the court heard the complaint.
In January 1769 Thomas Fish, John Fish and Joshua Fish together witnessed the will of a neighbor, Abraham Bockee. When the will was proved in 1784, Joshua Fish of Amenia gave his evidence by affirmation rather than oath, as a Quaker would.
Death
Mercy died in Dutchess County on 10 February 1778. The 1948 family history says Thomas died at the Oblong about 1786, aged eighty-three; no record of his death or burial has been found.
Notes
The deed and the will are known only from transcripts of the recorded copies, not from the original pages; the 1756 court bond is known from the original.
Family time line
Recorded events
| Event | When | Where | Evidence ?on record - the record itself, its image, or a transcript or printed copy of it has been read from a compiled source - an index, a printed genealogy or a memorial page says so not yet documented - in the family record, no source attached yet |
|---|---|---|---|
| Birth | 1 Dec 1703 | Portsmouth, Newport, Rhode Island, British Colonial America | from a compiled source |
| Living at | 13 Apr 1756 | Oblong, Dutchess, New York, British Colonial America | on record |
| Death at 83 |
abt 1786 | Oblong, Dutchess, New York, United States | from a compiled source |
Sources
- Fish, Lester Warren, The Fish Family in England and America (Rutland, Vt.: Tuttle, 1948) — Birth, Death, about this person, Marriage (Mercy Coggeshall)
- Dutchess County, N.Y., ancient documents - recognizance of Thomas Fish of the Oblong, 13 Apr 1756 (complaint of John Birdsell) — Living at, about this person
- Vital Records of Dartmouth, Massachusetts, to the year 1850, vol. 1 - Births (New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1929) — about this person
- Coggeshall, Charles Pierce and Thellwell Russell, The Coggeshalls in America (Boston: C. E. Goodspeed, 1930) — about this person, Marriage (Mercy Coggeshall)
- Arnold, James N., Vital Record of Rhode Island, 1636-1850, vol. 4, Newport County (Providence, 1893) - Portsmouth — about this person
- Arnold, James N. Vital Record of Rhode Island 1636-1850, vol. 7: Friends and Ministers (Providence, 1895) - p. 16, Friends' marriages: Fish to Coggeshall 1724 — about this person, Marriage (Mercy Coggeshall)
Borders as they stood about 1700 (they follow the event under the mouse), from the historical-basemaps project, the Newberry Library's Atlas of Historical County Boundaries (states and territories, 1783 on) and Natural Earth; the colonies and provinces are drawn along today's lines.
Line of descent
- Preserved Fish 1679–
- Thomas Fish abt 1649–abt 1684
- Thomas Fish –bef 1687
- Robert Fish 1593–1639
- Thomas Fyshe 1570–
- Mary Soule 1570–1639
- Alice Fish 1597–1658
- John Fyshe 1555–1623
- Margaret Craddock 1555–1630
- Robert Fish 1593–1639
- Mary (surname unknown) –bef 1699
- Thomas Fish –bef 1687
- Grizzel Strange
- John Strange –bef 1707
- not yet known
- Thomas Fish abt 1649–abt 1684
- Ruth Cook –bef 1775
- John Cook 1656–bef 1737
- John Cook abt 1630–bef 1691
- Thomas Cook 1600–1674
- not yet known
- Mary Borden 1633–bef 1691
- Richard Borden abt 1595–1671
- Matthew Borden abt 1563–1620
- Thomas Borden abt 1533–1592
- William Borden abt 1510–bef 1557
- Joan (surname unknown)
- (surname unknown) –1581
- Thomas Borden abt 1533–1592
- Joan Glover 1570–
- John Glover abt 1536–1593/1595
- Joan Kippinge
- Matthew Borden abt 1563–1620
- Joan Fowle 1604–1688
- Richard Fowle 1569–1631
- Thomas Fowle abt 1540–1592
- Richard Fowle abt 1514–1572
- Alice (surname unknown) 1518–1566
- Joane (surname unknown) –1570
- Thomas Fowle abt 1540–1592
- Mary (surname unknown) –1627
- Richard Fowle 1569–1631
- Richard Borden abt 1595–1671
- John Cook abt 1630–bef 1691
- Ruth Shaw 1660–
- Anthony Shaw –1705
- Alice Stonard
- John Stonard 1610–1649
- Margaret Miller 1603–1682
- Thomas Miller 1586–1682
- Agnes Lambe 1588–1643
- John Cook 1656–bef 1737
Descendants
- Lidia Fish 1725–
- Preserved Fish Dakin 1749–1835
- James Dakin 1790–1857
- Edwin Francis Dakin 1819–1892
- James Dakin 1790–1857
- Preserved Fish Dakin 1749–1835
- Wait Fish 1727–
- Amie Fish 1729–
- Sarah Milk 1749–1830
- David Moore 1793–1849
- Olive Moore 1827–1894
- David Moore 1793–1849
- Sarah Milk 1749–1830
- Preserved Fish 1731–
- John Fish 1734–
- Benjamin Fish 1758–1820
- Ephraim Fish 1791–1873
- Hannah E Fish 1836–1903
- Ephraim Fish 1791–1873
- Benjamin Fish 1758–1820
- Elizabeth Fish 1736–bef 1814
- John Allen 1752–1825
- David Allen 1773–1839
- Cyrus Allen 1800–1876
- Salmon Allen 1802–1884
- Annis Allen 1803–1818
- Horace Allen 1805–1828
- Lydia Allen 1808–1845
- Joseph Allen 1810–1826
- Eliza Jane Allen 1813–1869
- Adeline Allen 1815–1882
- Zina Allen 1817–1890
- Prince Allen 1775–1823
- Asa Allen 1797–1828
- Hiram Allen 1800–1874
- Seneca D Allen 1802–1884
- Abraham P Allen 1802–1859
- Harriet Allen 1805–1884
- Lyman Allen 1809–1835
- Esther Allen 1811–1860
- Mary Allen 1814–1890
- Lydia Allen 1816–1905
- Julia Allen 1819–1890
- Rachel Allen 1776–1872
- Horace Pratt 1796–1805
- Phebe Pratt 1797–1894
- Lyman Pratt 1799–1890
- Ruth Pratt 1800–1871
- Elisher Pratt 1803–1881
- Seneca Pratt 1803–1881
- Harvey Pratt 1805–1823
- Hiram A Pratt 1807–1886
- Annis Maria Pratt 1808–1887
- Rachel Pratt 1810–1823
- Martin Pratt 1812–1816
- Harriett Pratt 1813–1909
- Elizabeth Allen 1778–1865
- Hepsibeth Grandy 1793–1851
- John Grandy 1805–
- Phoebe Grandy 1806–1845
- Edmund Grandy 1807–1885
- Michael Grandy 1808–
- Philena Grandy 1809–
- Lydia Grandy 1810–
- Alonzo A Grandy 1812–1890
- Prince Grandy 1812–1890
- Melissa Grandy 1813–1851
- Annis Allen 1780–1803
- Samuel Bailey 1797–1883
- Ellen Bailey 1800–1878
- Seneca Allen 1782–1822
- Sophia C. Allen 1805–1903
- Anna Allen 1807–1871
- Julia Ann Allen 1808–1840
- Mary Allen 1809–1894
- Benjamin B. Allen 1812–1891
- Phoebe Allen 1814–1886
- Sylvia Allen 1817–1819
- Russell G Allen 1820–1909
- Bethuel Allen 1784–1854
- Joseph Allen 1786–1858
- Lois Allen 1808–
- Phoebe Allen 1810–1859
- Zina F Allen 1812–1890
- Amy Allen 1814–1872
- Wealthy Allen 1816–
- Hiram P Allen 1818–1891
- Joseph D Allen 1820–1904
- Franklin Allen 1823–1908
- Jane Allen 1824–1907
- Jonas B Allen 1828–1907
- Lyman P Allen 1830–1892
- John Allen 1789–1869
- Philip Allen 1815–1889
- Esther Allen 1818–1865
- Thomas Cook Allen 1822–1897
- Prince Allen 1823–1889
- Mary E Allen 1826–1902
- Bethuel Allen 1829–1891
- John Allen 1831–
- Benjamin Allen 1833–1903
- Rhoda A Allen 1836–1908
- Wilson Allen 1791–1872
- David Allen 1811–1888
- Martin Allen 1813–1896
- Andrew Jackson Allen 1815–1893
- Annis Allen 1817–1904
- Hiland Allen 1823–1902
- Phoebe Allen 1828–
- Phebe Allen 1828–1906
- Wilson Allen 1838–1904
- Benjamin Allen 1792–1878
- Lydia Allen 1815–1815
- Gideon Allen 1816–1878
- Henry Allen 1818–1886
- Daniel Allen 1820–1822
- Sidney Allen 1822–1873
- Rispa P Allen 1824–1850
- Adelia M Allen 1827–1899
- Jennette Allen 1828–1833
- Hannah Jenetth Allen 1837–1906
- Lydia Allen 1794–1881
- Harriet Calkins 1817–1897
- Allen D. Calkins 1819–1896
- Catherine Calkins 1820–1884
- Phoebe M. Calkins 1823–1918
- Martin T Calkins 1825–1908
- Gilbert Allen Calkins 1826–1923
- Julia Calkins 1828–1909
- Seth H. Calkins 1834–1926
- Lydia A. Calkins 1838–
- Mary Ann Calkins
- Martin Allen 1796–1876
- Seneca D Allen 1820–1896
- Susan M Allen 1822–1891
- Lydia Allen 1824–1893
- Betsy Allen 1826–1848
- Cyrus P Eddy Allen 1830–1889
- Elsie E Allen 1834–1928
- Catharine Allen 1840–1842
- Esther Allen 1798–1881
- Louisa Jane Jackson 1819–1885
- Melvin B Jackson 1821–1895
- Willard Jackson 1822–
- Wilson Jackson 1823–
- Jemima Deuel Jackson 1825–1880
- Lydia Calkins Jackson 1827–1874
- Mary Jackson 1829–1859
- Henry Greene Jackson 1833–
- William M Jackson 1838–1890
- Elisha Allen 1802–1888
- Abraham P Allen 1826–1915
- Sarah C Allen 1836–1914
- David E Allen 1840–1924
- David Allen 1773–1839
- Audere Allen 1759–1810
- Mercy Ford 1787–1829
- Sidney Ford Shepard 1821–1894
- Sidney S. Ford 1801–1866
- Harriet Jane Ford 1826–1900
- Sidney Smith Ford 1829–1900
- Thomas Jefferson Ford 1832–1906
- Ambrose B Ford 1837–1839
- Elizabeth Ann Ford 1840–1916
- Nancy Missouri Ford 1842–1851
- Fernando Claude Ford 1844–1916
- Mary Angeline Ford 1847–1934
- Mercy Ford 1787–1829
- Waite Allen 1766–1850
- Sarah Sherman 1783–
- Stephen Sherman 1784–
- Harvey Sherman 1806–1864
- Ruth Sherman 1814–1863
- Henry Sherman
- Isaac Sherman 1785–1863
- Jacob Sherman 1805–1870
- Jason Sherman 1808–1886
- Elliot Sherman 1811–1895
- Anson Sherman 1812–1863
- Eli Sherman 1816–1891
- Allen Sherman 1819–1913
- Rachel Sherman 1823–1898
- Alexia Sherman 1787–bef 1791
- Mahala Sherman 1789–
- Alexia Sherman 1791–
- Warren Sherman 1793–
- Peter Sherman 1795–
- Reuben Sherman 1796–1891
- Mary Ann Sherman 1823–1905
- Ezra Balcheldore Sherman 1825–1901
- Alexia Sherman 1828–1921
- Frederick Sherman 1830–1902
- Orville Sherman 1834–1912
- Luna A. Sherman 1798–1887
- Solomon Tuttle 1815–1865
- Jeremiah Tuttle 1816–1865
- Sidney Solomon Tuttle 1818–1902
- Almira Tuttle 1822–1846
- Sarah A. Tuttle 1824–1881
- John Tuttle 1825–
- Rachel Tuttle 1826–1899
- Horace Tuttle 1826–1925
- Charles Benjamin Tuttle 1839–1923
- Prudence Sherman 1800–
- Olive Sherman 1801–
- Loria Sherman 1804–
- Salena Sherman 1806–1842
- Annis Wheaton 1827–1883
- Elenor F. Wheaton abt 1829–1907
- Wait A. Sherman 1809–1896
- Allen Sherman 1811–
- Philip Allen 1777–1842
- Laban Allen
- Gilbert Allen 1783–
- John M Allen 1785–1857
- Humphrey Allen 1785–1786
- Elisha Allen 1786–1863
- Edmund Allen 1788–1874
- Caroline Allen 1819–1905
- Edmund Allen 1825–1910
- Warren Allen 1790–1791
- Cynthia Allen 1792–1875
- Clarissa Ruscoe 1813–1905
- Infant Rusco 1819–1819
- Mary Ann Ruscoe 1820–1897
- Emily Ruscoe 1824–1908
- Benjamin Wallace Rusco 1830–1871
- Clarissa Allen 1793–1856
- Harry Allen 1794–
- David Allen 1796–
- Laban M Allen 1798–1879
- Asa M Allen 1825–1904
- Mary Jane Allen 1827–1901
- Isaac Allen 1828–1891
- Laban M. Allen 1830–1888
- Lucy Castle Allen 1830–1904
- Eunice L. Allen 1833–1905
- Sally Ann Allen 1835–1837
- Elizabeth Allen 1838–1870
- Pheobe Ann Ruby Allen 1843–1910
- Rhoda A Allen 1844–
- Warren Allen 1801–1883
- Fannie Lavinna Allen 1827–
- Jacob B Allen 1829–1852
- Henry W Allen 1831–1851
- Sarah Jennett Allen 1834–1901
- Charles Edmond Allen 1840–1859
- Malissa E. Allen 1843–1930
- David Wallace Allen 1847–1935
- Albert E Allen 1853–
- Sarah Allen 1804–
- Mary Allen
- Lydia Allen
- Hannah Allen
- Ester Macomber 1793–1872
- Hannah Macomber 1797–
- Catherine Lewis 1820–
- William Blair Lewis 1835–
- Sally Ann Lewis 1837–1863
- Reuben Augustus Lewis 1840–1912
- Mary Augusta Lewis 1842–1922
- William Henry McCumber 1806–1896
- Lucy McCumber 1829–1911
- Robert H McCumber 1830–1867
- Mary Jane McCumber 1831–1884
- Miller Cornelius McCumber 1835–1904
- John McCumber 1840–1926
- Mary Ann McCumber 1842–1881
- Daniel McCumber
- Nanny Raly McCumber
- Washington McCumber
- Zelma McCumber
- David McCumber 1846–
- Amanda Jane McCumber 1849–1922
- Martha Louise McCumber 1853–1897
- Amie Allen
- Gideon Allen
- Elizabeth Allen
- David Allen –1814
- John Allen 1752–1825
- Sarah Fish 1738–
- Philena Brownell 1767–1855
- John Fish Beadle 1803–1874
- Zina Waite Beadle 1832–1892
- John Fish Beadle 1803–1874
- Philena Brownell 1767–1855
- Caleb Fish 1740–
- Joshua Fish 1743–