de Valoines · ◉ direct ancestor
♀Lady Joan de Valoines
Died before 1312.
Joan de Valoines (died before 6 September 1312) was an English heiress and landholder, the daughter of Thomas de Valoines, whose manor of Shabbington in Buckinghamshire came to her as his heir. Widowed by 1295, she lived on for seventeen years and outlived her eldest son by less than a year. She was the twentieth great-grandmother of Nancy Jane Blanchard (1929–2006) by two separate lines of descent, both through her son John de Grey (1266–1311).
Marriage and family
Joan married Robert de Grey of Rotherfield Greys in Oxfordshire. Thomas de Valoines gave the couple half the manor of Winterbourne in Berkshire in frank-marriageW, the form in which a father endowed a daughter and her husband at their marriage, and his manor of Shabbington in Buckinghamshire later came to Joan as his heir. They had two sons, John and Thomas, and a daughter, Margaret.
Widowhood
Robert died before 27 May 1295. That November, when a son was born to Fulk de Rucote, a messenger was sent “to Lady Joan de Grey at Schobyndon” with the news; she was most likely Robert’s widow, living at Shabbington. Her daughter Margaret is said to have lost her own husband, John FitzBernard, by May 1297. That year Joan settled her land at East Claydon in Buckinghamshire on herself for life, then on her daughter Margaret and Margaret’s daughter Joan, with her younger son Thomas to inherit only after them.
In the autumn of 1300 her eldest son’s wife, Margaret de Oddingseles, bore a son, John, at Rotherfield. Joan was most likely the Joan de Grey who, with William de Warmoteston and John de Sakevill, lifted the infant from the font at his baptism.
Death
Joan died before 6 September 1312, when the writ for the inquestW on her lands was issued. Her son John had died the previous October, so her heir was that grandson John, then eleven. The jurors found that Shabbington had descended to her on her father’s death, and that she had held the Winterbourne land for life in frank-marriage. Her dower lands are said to have been granted to Hugh le Despenser the elderW for as long as the heir was under age.
Lines of descent
Both lines run through her son John de Grey (1266–1311). One comes down through Thomas DudleyW (1576–1653), later governor of the Massachusetts Bay Colony, to Nathaniel Dudley (1763–1844); the other reaches Nathaniel’s wife, Anna Smith (1764–1825). The two lines meet again in their daughter Sarah Dudley (1795–1839).
Notes
Parentage and lands
The inquest after her death found Shabbington (“Schobyngton”) “descended to the said Joan after the death of Thomas de Valoignes her father, being held of Edmund, earl of Cornwall”, and a moiety of Winterbourne in Berkshire “held for life in free marriage, because Thomas de Valoynes thereof enfeoffed the said Robert and Joan” (Calendar of Inquisitions Post Mortem, vol. 5, no. 398). The Complete Peerage (2nd ed., vol. 6, p. 144) gives her as “Joan, da. of Thomas de Valoines”, and quotes a plea of 1330 in which her grandson John de Grey of Rotherfield sued for land in Shabbington “which Thomas de Valoines gave to Robert de Grey and Joan his wife and the heirs of their bodies”. The Victoria County History of Buckinghamshire (vol. 4) names her as Thomas’s heir and has her holding there with Robert in 1284. Final concords of 1299 and 1300 name “Joan de Valoygnes, who was the wife of Thomas de Valoygnes”, holding in dower “of the inheritance of Joan de Grey”; they do not call her Joan’s mother.
Her children
Robert’s inquest of 1295 names his heir John but no wife. Joan’s own inquest makes John’s son her heir, which points to John as her son; so does the plea of 1330, which treats the grandson as an heir of her body. Her settlement of East Claydon, as quoted in the Complete Peerage (vol. 5, pp. 398-399) from the feet of fines of Easter 1297, ran to “Margaret her da. late the wife of John le fiz Bernard, for life, rem. to Joan da. of the said John and Margaret … rem. to Thomas de Grey, son of the first-named Joan, in fee”. Her inquest of 1312 repeats the remainders to “Margaret her daughter”, to Margaret’s daughter Joan, and then to “one Thomas de Grey”. The Complete Peerage has John FitzBernard dead before 12 May 1297.
Lady Joan de Grey in 1295 and 1300
At the proof of age of Fulk son of Fulk de Rucote, born at Rucote on 16 November 1295, a juror recalled that John de Scalebrok was sent “to Lady Joan de Grey at Schobyndon to announce that his wife had a son” (Calendar of Inquisitions Post Mortem, vol. 6, no. 123). The place, Shabbington, is what makes her most likely Robert’s widow. At the proof of age of her grandson John, a juror said that he, “with John de Sakevill and Joan de Grey, lifted the said heir from the sacred font” (vol. 6, no. 336). No other Joan de Grey old enough to be a godmother in 1300 is known in the family, so she was most likely the grandmother.
Date of death
The writ for her inquest is dated 6 September in the sixth year of Edward II (1312). The Complete Peerage (vol. 6, p. 144) gives “His widow d. before 12 Nov. 1312” and cites the Fine Rolls for the grant of her dower land to Hugh le Despenser the elder during the heir’s minority.
Family time line
Recorded events
| Event | When | Where | Evidence ?on record - the record itself, its image, or a transcript or printed copy of it has been read from a compiled source - an index, a printed genealogy or a memorial page says so not yet documented - in the family record, no source attached yet |
|---|---|---|---|
| Title (Nobility) Lady, as a knight's wife ('Lady Joan de Grey at Schobyndon', CIPM 6 no.123) |
1295 | on record | |
| Living at 'Lady Joan de Grey at Schobyndon' (Shabbington, Bucks), sent word of Fulk de Rucote's birth 16 Nov 1295 - proof of age of Fulk son of Fulk de Rucote, 11 Edw II (CIPM 6 no.123); identity PROBABLE (the Valoines gift) |
16 Nov 1295 | Shabbington, Buckinghamshire, England | on record |
| Death 'His widow d. before 12 Nov. 1312' (CP2 vi p.144) |
bef 6 Sep 1312 | on record |
Sources
- Calendar of Inquisitions Post Mortem, Volume 6, Edward II (London: HMSO, 1910) — Title (Nobility), Living at, about this person
- Cokayne, G. E., The Complete Peerage, new ed., ed. Vicary Gibbs et al., vol. 6 (London: St Catherine Press, 1926) — Death, about this person, family with Robert de Grey
- Calendar of Inquisitions Post Mortem, Volume 5, Edward II (London: HMSO, 1908) — Death, about this person, family with Robert de Grey
- Cokayne, G. E., The Complete Peerage, new ed., ed. Vicary Gibbs et al., vol. 5 (London: St Catherine Press, 1926) — about this person, family with Robert de Grey
- A History of the County of Buckingham, Volume 4, ed. William Page (London: Victoria County History, 1927), 'Parishes: Shabbington', pp.102-104 — about this person
- The National Archives (UK), CP 25/1/285/24 no.247, final concord, York, 1 July 1299, the prior of the Hospital of St John of Jerusalem v. Joan widow of Robert de Grey, manor of Shabbington — about this person
- Calendar of Inquisitions Post Mortem, Volume 3, Edward I (London: HMSO, 1912) — family with Robert de Grey
Borders as they stood about 1500, from the historical-basemaps project, the Newberry Library's Atlas of Historical County Boundaries (states and territories, 1783 on) and Natural Earth; the colonies and provinces are drawn along today's lines.
Line of descent
- Thomas de Valoines –bef 1299
- Thomas Valoines 1200–1236
- not yet known
- not yet known
Descendants
- John de Grey 1266/1272–1311
- John de Grey 1300–1359
- John de Grey abt 1343–
- Maud Grey –1394
- John Botetourt abt 1362–
- Joyce Botetourt abt 1368–
- Sir Thomas Harcourt bef 1377–1420
- Robert de Grey –bef 1367
- John de Grey 1300–1359
- Margaret de Grey –1307
- Thomas de Grey