The Delahorne/Curtis Family History

de Braose · ◉ direct ancestor

♂John de Braose

Dates not yet known.

John de BraoseW (died 1232) was an English lord of Bramber in Sussex and of GowerW in South Wales, and the husband of Margaret ferch Llywelyn. He was the twenty-first great-grandfather of Nancy Jane Blanchard (1929–2006) by two separate lines of descent, both through his son William de Braose (died 1290).

Family

John is said to have been the son and heir of a William de Braose who was starved to death by King John in 1210. John and Margaret are said to have married in 1219. Margaret is said to have been a daughter of Llywelyn ap IorwerthW, prince of North Wales, so John was a son-in-law of Llywelyn the Great. Their son and heir was William de Braose (died 1290), and a John de Breuse of Glasbury, in the county of Brecon, was probably a younger son.

Death

John is said to have died after a fall from his horse. His son William succeeded him in 1232, before 18 July, while still under age. Margaret, his widow, married Walter de CliffordW, lord of Clifford in Herefordshire.

Lines of descent

Both lines run through John and Margaret’s son William de Braose (died 1290), his son Peter de Braose (1273–1311), Peter’s son Peter de Braose (died 1377) and his daughter Beatrice de Braose (died 1440), then through Beatrice’s son Ralph Shirley and his daughter Beatrix Shirley (died 1483), and from Beatrix through the Bromes, Dentons, Purefoys and Thornes to Thomas Dudley (1576–1653) and his son Samuel Dudley (1608–1683). One comes down through Samuel’s son Stephen Dudley (1654–1735) to Nathaniel Dudley (1763–1844), and the other to Nathaniel’s wife, Anna Smith (1764–1825); the two lines meet again in their daughter Sarah Dudley (1795–1839).

Notes

His father

The Complete Peerage (2nd ed., vol. 2, 1912, p. 302, note b) makes John the son and heir of William, “who was starved to death by King John in 1210”, son and heir of William, lord of Braiose (now Briouze) in Normandy, of Bramber and of Brecon.

His marriage and his son John

The year of the marriage is from The Complete Peerage (2nd ed., vol. 5, 1926, p. 642, note), citing the Welsh chronicle Brut y TywysogionW. Margaret’s parentage is given there, in the same work’s account of their son William (vol. 2, p. 302), in F. N. Craig, “Whose Son was Peter de Braose?”, New England Historical and Genealogical Register, vol. 150 (July 1996), Table 1 (p. 322), and in a Braose pedigree in Sussex Archaeological Collections, vol. 8 (1856); the record of her second marriage, as The Complete Peerage notes, does not name her father. The younger John, of Glasbury, was summoned to the king’s service from 1276 to 1283; The Complete Peerage (vol. 2, p. 307) calls him “probably a yr. s.” of John and Margaret.

His death

William’s succession in 1232, before 18 July, is from the Close Roll of 16 Henry III, as cited in The Complete Peerage (vol. 2, p. 302). The fall from his horse is from the 1856 pedigree, which records that John died “by fall from horse” in the sixteenth year of Henry III (October 1231 to October 1232). Margaret is named as his widow in the Close Roll of 19 Henry III, and a record cited by Dugdale states that she, as John’s widow, married Walter de Clifford (The Complete Peerage, vol. 5, p. 642, note).

Family time line

No marriage recorded
◉ Sir William de Braose –abt 1290

Recorded events

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Living at
'At his family's fall from Royal favour John de Braose was initially hidden on Gower and spent some time in the care of his uncle Giles de Braose, Bishop of Hereford, but finally in 1214 John and his younger brother Philip were...' (Wikipedia, 'John de Braose'), per Wikipedia 'John de Braose', NO EVIDENCE YET
abt 1210 Gower, Glamorgan, Wales on record

Sources

  • Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (en.wikipedia.org) - articles on medieval royal and noble ancestors, read s1409 — Living at, about this person
  • "Whose Son was Peter de Braose?", New England Historical and Genealogical Register, vol. 150 (July 1996) — about this person, family with Margaret ferch Llywelyn
  • Cokayne, G. E., The Complete Peerage, new ed., ed. Vicary Gibbs, vol. 1 (London, 1910) — about this person

Borders as they stood about 1500, from the historical-basemaps project, the Newberry Library's Atlas of Historical County Boundaries (states and territories, 1783 on) and Natural Earth; the colonies and provinces are drawn along today's lines.


Line of descent

  1. William de Braose –1210
    1. William de Braose –1211
      1. William de Braose
        1. Philip de Braose
          1. William de Braose
          2. not yet known
        2. Aenor of Totnes
          1. Juhel of Totnes
          2. not yet known
      2. Bertha of Gloucester
        1. Miles of Gloucester –1143
          1. Walter of Gloucester
          2. not yet known
        2. Sibyl de Neufmarche
          1. Bernard de Neufmarche
          2. not yet known
    2. Maud de St. Valery –1210
      1. Bernard St Valéry 1117–1191
      2. Matilda (surname unknown) –1151
  2. not yet known

Descendants

  1. Sir William de Braose –abt 1290
    1. Sir Peter de Braose abt 1273–1311
      1. Thomas de Braose abt 1301–1362
      2. Peter de Braose –1377
        1. Beatrice de Braose –1440
        2. John de Braose –1426
        3. Richard de Braose
        4. Thomas de Braose
        5. Philippa de Braose
      3. Mary de Braose –1363
        1. John de Cobham –1377
      4. John de Braose –1343
    2. Richard de Braose –1295
    3. Margaret de Braose
    4. William de Braose