LeNoir · ◉ direct ancestor
♀Madeleine LeNoir
Born about 1565, Leuze, Aisne, Hauts-de-France, France. Died 1633.
Madeleine LeNoir (about 1565 – buried 6 May 1633) was a native of Leuze, in the Aisne in northern France, who was buried at La Pissotte, at Vincennes east of Paris, having outlived her husband by three years and her son Quentin by eight. She was probably the eleventh great-grandmother of Floyd Amatus Delahorne (1922–2014), through her son Quentin Hordouille (died 1625).
From Leuze to Vincennes
Madeleine was the daughter of Jean LeNoir and Marguerite Thiébault, and is said to have been born about 1565. She married André Hordouille, who signed his name “Andrien Hordolle”, and in 1597 the family moved away from the Aisne. By 1615 her son Quentin was settled at Montreuil, beside Vincennes. André died or was buried on 8 March 1630, and Madeleine was buried at La Pissotte on 6 May 1633.
The family
André Hordouille and Madeleine LeNoir’s son Quentin Hordouille became a master carpenter at Montreuil and married Marie Souhaitté there on 15 November 1615. The couple had four children between 1617 and 1625. Quentin died or was buried on 4 September 1625, seven weeks after the birth of his youngest son, Eustache, in a year when plague is said to have struck Montreuil. His daughter Marie, then about three, grew up to cross with her own family to New France.
Notes
Sources for her life
Her parents, her birth at Leuze (“nee a Leuze”), her burial at La Pissotte, Vincennes on 6 May 1633 (“s. 06-05-1633”), her husband’s signature and his death or burial on 8 March 1630, the family’s departure from the Aisne in 1597, and her son Quentin’s trade, marriage, children and death or burial on 4 September 1625 come from the Fichier Origine, the register of the French origins of the settlers of New France, in the entry for her granddaughter Marie Hordouille. The year of her birth, about 1565, and the plague of 1625 at Montreuil rest on WikiTree, a shared family tree, and not on a record cited here.
The line to Floyd Amatus Delahorne
The descent from her son Quentin runs through Quentin’s daughter Marie, her daughter Françoise-Madeleine Savard, Françoise-Madeleine’s daughter Andrée Angélique Jeanne and Jean-Baptiste Godin, whom Stephen A. White’s Dictionnaire généalogique des familles acadiennes (p. 747) places among the children of Andrée and Gabriel Godin. Bona Arsenault’s list of their children does not name him, so the line is probable rather than proved.
Family time line
Recorded events
| Event | When | Where | Evidence ?on record - the record itself, its image, or a transcript or printed copy of it has been read from a compiled source - an index, a printed genealogy or a memorial page says so not yet documented - in the family record, no source attached yet |
|---|---|---|---|
| Birth Leuze (Aisne) (Fichier Origine 243107); year per WikiTree Le_Noir-2 |
abt 1565 | Leuze, Aisne, Hauts-de-France, France | on record |
| Burial La Pissotte, Vincennes (Fichier Origine 243107) |
6 May 1633 | not yet documented |
Sources
- Fichier Origine (Federation quebecoise des societes de genealogie), fiche no. 243107 - HOURDOUIL / HORDOUILLE, Marie: b. late 1621 Montreuil; d. Charlesbourg 24-11-1703; daughter of Quentin Hordouille x Marie Souhaitte (m. 15-11-1615) — Birth, about this person, family with André Hordouille
Borders as they stood about 1530 (they follow the event under the mouse), from the historical-basemaps project, the Newberry Library's Atlas of Historical County Boundaries (states and territories, 1783 on) and Natural Earth; the colonies and provinces are drawn along today's lines.
Line of descent
Descendants
- Quentin Hordouille –1625
- Pierre Hordouille 1617–
- Denis Hordouille 1619–
- Marie Hordouille abt 1621–1703
- Marguerite Savard 1645–
- Denise Savard 1646–bef 1703
- Marie Madeleine Fiset 1667–1711
- Charles Fiset 1677–1749
- Marguerite Savard 1648–
- Françoise-Madeleine Savard 1650–1704
- Marie Jeanne abt 1668–
- Andrée Angélique Jeanne 1671–1739
- Martin Jeanne abt 1673–
- Jean Jeanne abt 1676–
- Marie Jeanne abt 1679–
- Nicole Savard 1652–
- Simon Savard 1655–1715
- children who may still be living
- Jean Savard 1657–1735
- Joseph Simon Savard 1690–1755
- Marguerite Savard 1694–1745
- Marie Thouenette Savard 1659–1661
- Marie Savard 1661–1703
- Eustache Hordouille 1625–