The Delahorne/Curtis Family History

de Grey · ◉ direct ancestor

♂Robert de Grey

Died before 1295.

Robert de Grey (died before 27 May 1295) was an English landholder of Rotherfield Greys in Oxfordshire, with manors in Oxfordshire and Yorkshire. His mother was an heiress whose guardian, Walter de Grey, Archbishop of YorkW, married her to his own nephew, Robert’s father. He was the twentieth great-grandfather of Nancy Jane Blanchard (1929–2006) by two separate lines of descent, both through his son John de Grey (1266–1311).

Early life

Robert was the son of Walter de Grey of Rotherfield and Isabel de Duston. Isabel was the eldest of the three daughters and heirs of William de Duston, who left them under age when he died. Their wardship passed to the archbishop, who arranged the marriages of all three, and Isabel’s went to the archbishop’s nephew Walter. Robert’s father was dead by January 1268, when Robert is said to have done homage for his lands.

Service under Edward I

Robert de Grey was reportedly summoned for military service repeatedly between 1276 and 1287, the years of Edward I’s wars in Wales. He is also said to have been summoned in June 1283 to attend the King at Shrewsbury, where the captured Welsh prince Dafydd ap GruffuddW was tried that autumn. At home, a commission was said to have been issued in February 1290 on his complaint that his park at Rotherfield had been broken into by night and his deer carried away.

Marriage and family

Robert married Joan de Valoines, the daughter of Thomas de Valoines. Thomas de Valoines gave the couple half the manor of Winterbourne in Berkshire in frank-marriageW, the form in which a father endowed a daughter and her husband at their marriage, and his manor of Shabbington in Buckinghamshire later came to Joan as his heir. They had two sons, John and Thomas, and a daughter, Margaret.

Death

Robert de Grey died before 27 May 1295, when the first writ for the inquestsW on his lands was issued. The inquests covered Rotherfield and Hardwick in Oxfordshire and Sculcoates and Kettlewell in Yorkshire. Hardwick reportedly owed no service at all: Henry I had given it to the abbey of Sées in Normandy, and the monks had passed it to Robert’s forebears to hold as freely as they had held it themselves. The juries named his son John as his heir but disagreed on his age. The Yorkshire jurors made him 23 and more, while those in Oxfordshire called him “his first born son, aged 28 and more”. Joan outlived Robert by seventeen years.

Lines of descent

Both lines run through his son John de Grey (1266–1311). One comes down through Thomas DudleyW (1576–1653), later governor of the Massachusetts Bay Colony, to Nathaniel Dudley (1763–1844); the other reaches Nathaniel’s wife, Anna Smith (1764–1825). The two lines meet again in their daughter Sarah Dudley (1795–1839).

Notes

Parentage and his mother’s marriage

The inquest on William de Duston, taken on 24 April 1271, found that “he had 3 daughters his heirs, who were under age when their father died”, that “Walter, sometime archbishop of York, who afterwards had the wardship of the heirs, married them”, and that “Isabel, the eldest daughter, who was married to Walter de Grey”, was in seisin (Calendar of Inquisitions Post Mortem, vol. 1, no. 760). A royal grant of 1246 names “Walter de Grey son of Robert de Grey, nephew of W. archbishop of York” (Calendar of the Charter Rolls, vol. 1, p. 292). Under Edward II, John de Grey, Lord of Rotherfield, Robert’s grandson, petitioned concerning the advowson of St James, Northampton, which had been held “until the time of Isabel, daughter and heir of William de Duston, his great-grandmother” (The National Archives, SC 8/17/838). The Complete Peerage (2nd ed., vol. 6, p. 144) makes Robert “s. and h. of Sir Walter de Grey … by Isabel, eld. da. and coh. of William de Duston”, and gives his homage for his father’s lands on 5 January 1267/8 from the Fine Rolls.

Service and the park at Rotherfield

The summonses for military service from 12 December 1276 to 14 June 1287, the summons of 28 June 1283 to attend the King at Shrewsbury, and the commission of 11 February 1289/90 on his complaint “that his park at Rotherfield had been entered by night and deer carried away” (citing the Patent Rolls) all come from the Complete Peerage (vol. 6, p. 144). The trial of Dafydd ap Gruffudd at Shrewsbury in the autumn of 1283 is general history.

Marriage

The Complete Peerage (vol. 6, p. 144) gives his wife as “Joan, da. of Thomas de Valoines”, from a plea of 1330 in which his grandson sued for land in Shabbington “which Thomas de Valoines gave to Robert de Grey and Joan his wife and the heirs of their bodies”. The inquest after Joan’s death in 1312 found that Shabbington had “descended to the said Joan after the death of Thomas de Valoignes her father”, and that she held the Winterbourne moiety “for life in free marriage, because Thomas de Valoynes thereof enfeoffed the said Robert and Joan” (Calendar of Inquisitions Post Mortem, vol. 5, no. 398). Robert’s own inquest names no wife.

Death and heir

The writs for the inquests on his lands are dated 27 May and 11 June in the twenty-third year of Edward I (1295). At York the jurors found “John his son, aged 23 and more, is his next heir”; in Oxfordshire, “his first born son, aged 28 and more” (Calendar of Inquisitions Post Mortem, vol. 3, no. 284). The account of Hardwick, which “Hen. I gave to the Abbot and Convent of Sées in frankalmoign”, so that “the manor is charged with no service”, is the Complete Peerage’s summary of that inquest (vol. 6, p. 144).

Family time line

◉ Robert de Grey –bef 1295
◉ Lady Joan de Valoines –bef 1312
No marriage recorded
◉ John de Grey 1266/1272–1311
○ Margaret de Grey –1307

Recorded events

EventWhenWhereEvidence ?on record - the record itself, its image, or a transcript or printed copy of it has been read
from a compiled source - an index, a printed genealogy or a memorial page says so
not yet documented - in the family record, no source attached yet
Living at
'On 11 Feb. 1289/90 a commission issued on a complaint of Robert de Grey that his park at Rotherfield had been entered by night and deer carried away. He m. Joan, da. of Thomas de Valoines. He d. before 27 May 1295....' (Cokayne, Complete Peerage, 2nd ed., vol. 6, pp. 144-145, GREY (of Rotherfield), citing Cal. Patent Rolls) - compiled, no record seen
1290 Rotherfield Greys, Oxfordshire, England from a compiled source
Death
writs 27 May and 11 June 23 Edw I; Rotherfield, Hardwick (Oxon), Sculcoates, Kettlewell (York) (CIPM 3 no.284)
bef 27 May 1295 on record
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Sources

  • Cokayne, G. E., The Complete Peerage, new ed., ed. Vicary Gibbs et al., vol. 6 (London: St Catherine Press, 1926) — Living at, about this person, family with Lady Joan de Valoines
  • Calendar of Inquisitions Post Mortem, Volume 3, Edward I (London: HMSO, 1912) — Death, about this person, family with Lady Joan de Valoines
  • The National Archives (UK), SC 8 Ancient Petitions, SC 8/17/838, petition of John de Grei (Grey), Lord of Rotherfield, re the advowson of St James, Northampton — about this person
  • Cokayne, G. E., The Complete Peerage, new ed., ed. Vicary Gibbs et al., vol. 5 (London: St Catherine Press, 1926) — family with Lady Joan de Valoines
  • Calendar of Inquisitions Post Mortem, Volume 5, Edward II (London: HMSO, 1908) — family with Lady Joan de Valoines

Borders as they stood about 1500, from the historical-basemaps project, the Newberry Library's Atlas of Historical County Boundaries (states and territories, 1783 on) and Natural Earth; the colonies and provinces are drawn along today's lines.


Line of descent

  1. Walter de Grey –bef 1268
    1. Robert de Grey
      1. not yet known
      2. Hawise de Grey
    2. Beatrix St Luce 1190–
  2. Isabel de Duston –aft 1276
    1. William de Duston –bef 1255
      1. William Duston 1169–1234
      2. Mary Wake –1235
    2. Mary Erdington –1234

Descendants

  1. John de Grey 1266/1272–1311
    1. John de Grey 1300–1359
      1. John de Grey abt 1343–
      2. Maud Grey –1394
        1. John Botetourt abt 1362–
        2. Joyce Botetourt abt 1368–
        3. Sir Thomas Harcourt bef 1377–1420
      3. Robert de Grey –bef 1367
  2. Margaret de Grey –1307
    1. Thomas FitzBernard 1289–
    2. Joan FitzBernard
  3. Thomas de Grey